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Make the site resize to fit any monitor

flysfooty
suggested this on May 28, 2011 17:56

Since most monitors are becoming widescreen it would be a good idea to put inplace software that automatically resizes the site to fit the size of the monitor its being viewed on like most web pages do, Instead of having the set paramaters which are currently used.

I designed my site on a 15.6" widescreen laptop and thought it looked great untill i viewed it on my 22" widescreen pc monitor and the result looks not so great.

The huge margins down either side make the site have an unprofessional look which could easily be eliminated by having the software in place to automatically resize the website to any monitor size thats viewing the site.

I hope you can look into this problem and come up with a fix sometime in the future.

Thanks Flysfooty..

 

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jimlug

I am having the same problem indeed; I have finished editing my website yet but I had a friend looking at it today and he told me that the website' size was not fitting his screen. That is a real issue because I want it to be perfect when it goes live. If our dear Moonfruit Team could have a look at that soon, it would make the day of a lot of Moonfruit users.

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Cheers,

Lu

June 19, 2011 17:46
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jimlug

I haven't finished editing it, I was trying to say, sorry...

June 19, 2011 17:47
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dragel

I totally agree, I created my site on a 23" HD monitor and when viewing it on a regular laptop the site is much to big. I used wix previously to moonfruit and they do have a fit to width option however the reason I came to moonfruit was that the sites created looked much more professional and like html. Please sort this out MF as its the main reason I'm holding back from buying a year subscription.

Also a tip for the OP wanting there site to fit a larger monitor, set your width and hight to 1920x1080 thats HD resolution and should fit your widescreen pretty well if its to big try 1280x720 but again you would then have the same problem I'm having, the site looking to big on a lower resolution monitor.

September 04, 2011 13:11
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samicostelow

does anyone have a solution?? Mine too

November 18, 2011 00:09
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samicostelow

does anyone have a solution?? Mine too

November 18, 2011 00:09
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi,

I'm afraid this simply isn't possible at the moment - Flash does not support a reliable method of resizing and re-arranging multiple objects, so we can't offer it in the software - sorry about this.

If the feature becomes available in a future version of Flash, we will almost certainly incorporate it.

HTH,

Gary

November 21, 2011 11:14
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glennn

Hi

Have you tried re-sizing your jpeg at a larger finished size ie, in Photoshop but at the same resolution?

November 21, 2011 14:03
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lyndachachaty2

any improvements on this yet??

January 31, 2012 01:46
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi,

I'm afraid not - the Flash situation hasn't changed, but there may be a chance that we can offer it with the HTML 5 display that is coming later this year.

HTH,

Gary

January 31, 2012 15:15
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white-tiger

Same problem - my site, when viewed on a smaller monitor, looks awful. It is way to big for the screen and you cannot see large portions of my webpages. If resizing isn't possible, is it possible to have scroll bars on the website so that visitors can scroll to see the parts of the site that won't fit on the page?

Thanks, Tom.

 

March 05, 2012 20:38
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi Tom,

If the site is too large to fit in any given browser window, the browser should generate scrollbars automatically.

HTH,

Gary

March 06, 2012 11:16
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lizscott

Is there any solution yet? My website looks terrible and I am receiving many negative feedback from my customers! Looks very very very unprofessional.

 

I would have not renewed my annual payment if I had know about this issue. Gutted! I have message the tech support but they are useless "Awaiting assignment to a help desk operator" is what I get for the last three days.


anyone here?

March 28, 2012 02:00
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi,

I'm sorry that you haven't received a reply to your ticket yet - we do have a large number in the queue at the moment, but the number is reducing all the time, so response times are actually improving.

Having read through your ticket, I'm not sure your problem is actually the same as what has been discussed in this thread - it would help Support greatly if you could send us a screenshot of how your site appears.

Thanks,

Gary

March 29, 2012 10:14
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atelieto

The inability of automatically resizing the site to fit the size of the monitor, is HUGE disadvantage ! If You not pay attention of this problem, Gary - soon you will start to lose.

April 06, 2012 23:05
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lotusleaf

Moonfuit *is* paying attention to it.  As Gary said above, it simply isn't possible with Flash sites to resize the site to fit all monitors - that's a facet of Flash that moonfruit can't do anything about.  But also as Gary said above, HTML5 *may* solve the problem and that will be coming later this year, presumably after it's been sufficiently tested and not before!

April 07, 2012 07:53
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atelieto

It's nice to hear that ! Good luck !

April 07, 2012 12:42
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dragel

It IS possible with flash sites as I've stated in my older post Wix have this feature and they are flash based so saying it isn't is just fobbing us of with phony excuses. This is a huge flaw and makes using moonfruit for a professional website pointless. here is a link to a simple Wix website I made to prove it is possible with flash: http://www.scottbrannan.co.uk/

April 07, 2012 13:14
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lotusleaf

I've tried zooming your site on Chrome - the page flashes very briefly and then jumps back to its original size.  On Firefox, when I try to zoom, it resizes a pixel at a time until I get a very slightly wider border, and that's it.  Is this what's supposed to happen?

April 07, 2012 15:26
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dragel

I think you have misinterpreted this thread, we don't care about being able to zoom in and out and have the page resize, we want it to load already fitted to any monitor size which the wix site does. I created it on a 23" wide screen but if I view it on a 17" laptop it still looks the same and fits the screen where as with moonfruit it stays at the larger size if I view it on a smaller screen. 

April 07, 2012 15:34
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi dragel,

I see what you're getting at - when I change the size of my browser window, the entire Flash object gets zoomed in or out to match.

This is possible because Wix have chosen to go down a different path with the way their sites are published. When you generate a Flash object, for example, you have to declare the width and height - Wix will almost certainly have this set as '100%'. This is possible because they keep all pages at the same size. Conversely, because we allow pages of differing length, we cannot declare the size in the same way.

However, it's worth bearing in mind that most 'full screen' websites don't behave in the same way as the Wix site either - although it is possible to use HTML and CSS to set certain elements to 100% width and height, it isn't possible for everything, so most sites simply increase the size of containers, and reflow text and images to fit. The results aren't always what the designer intended.

HTH,

Gary

April 10, 2012 15:29
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pennymavrikis

I have received great feedback from many people on my new website (pennymavrikis.com) and want to thank you for moonfruit offering a free version. One person shared with me a viewing problem she only sees when looking at my site when running Windows Ultimate with IE9  Apparently it looks fine in Chrome and in Mozilla (running windows Ultimate I assume). As an FYI- I created my website using Windows 7 Ultimate on a 17" Dell Studio laptop). Any suggestions on what I can do so others don't see my site this way in case they are running IE9 would be appreciated. Attached is a screenshot showing the right hand side of the site being cut off. Thanks in advance!

April 14, 2012 07:13
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Gary
Moonfruit

Hi,

It looks like Internet Explorer's zoom control is set to something other than 100% - unfortunately, this will cause the problem you see there. If they set it back to 100%, your site will displayed correctly.

HTH,

Gary

April 16, 2012 12:02
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pollywolly01

If I knew about this , I would't have joined :(  .  I think I will be paying to transfer to another site once my year is up

May 21, 2012 19:47
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broncoblue

NOT GOOD MOONFRUIT NOT GOOD

May 27, 2012 23:34
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fieryhot01

Hi All,

 

It's not what you're after but if you just want your site to look good at all sizes make a background .jpg at 1600px width (or as wide as you expect a visitors browser window might reach).  Set your site to center justified and place your content in a window at <>960-980px. As the browser window gets larger than 1024 you'll see more of the background .jpg.

 

Obviously, none of the onscreen elements are resizing (which is what most are after) but your page will fill the screen nicely.  I'm building some like this right now: www.hotprint.co.uk, www.radioco.moonfruit.com.  Alternatively, go for a tile.  A nice tile will fill a screen of any width and look good doing it (yep, I'm making one of those too!),  www.steveswebs.co.uk.

Personally, yes it would be nice to resize but I'd rather have the freedom that MF offers.  I check my sites on a laptop at 1600px wide and a desktop 1200px wide.  I know that the sites are functional down to 1024 as I make them with a site width of 980px.  If my Google Analytics told me an existing site had a large audience with bigger screen resolutions I'd make my MF site accordingly.

June 09, 2012 15:46
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lizscott

MOONFRUIT!!!!  I WILL NOT BE RENEWING IF THIS PROBLEM IS NOT RESOLVED...

 

Dear Moonfruit. I have been with you for many many years now as a loyal customer but I cannot keep telling my customers to ZOOM IN or OUT accordinly to adjust their srceen resoultion to fit the websites.

 

To all the people posting links to their websites saying they have set the page to 1600px and 1200px... this still does not work. I check my sites on laptops, pc at work and internet cafes all over. And to be honest... THEY ALL LOOK CRAP. Too small, not centered etc...

 

This is a big problem and if WIX can cater for this then I will be off. Losing way too many customers for my liking now.

 

AND PLEASE STOP TELLING EVERYONE TO SET ZOOM TO 100%

100% ZOOM IS TOO SMALL TO  EVEN VIEW MOONFRUIT WEBSITES.

 

 

August 26, 2012 08:48
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Juli
Moonfruit

Hi,

I'm afraid that at least for the time being the answer is going to be, ensure your browser zoom level is set to 100%. You may need experiment with your overall site size and settle on a size you feel will represent your site well on all screen sizes. This is because the site is presented in flash. Browsers are not able to zoom in and out of the flash part of your site. What the browser will do is make your borders larger or smaller depending on how you use the zoom level.

We are hoping to release our HTML5 project in Q4 of this year. This way if a browser can support HTML5 the site will have the same functions as any other HTML site, including the zoom function.

You may want to look further up this thread, where Gary have explain the differences with Wix.

HTH

Juli

August 26, 2012 17:38
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lizscott

"drag and drop website builder WIX launched its HTML5 March 26 2012" !!!

 

I cant see how this would solve this BIG problem with moon fruit?

 

I cannot have a message on my websites to say "PLEASE ENSURE YOU SET YOUR BROWSER ZOOM LEVEL TO 100%"

how unprofessional is this?

 

SO please explain how HTML5 would solve this problem with moonfruit?

My websites look terrible and ridiculous on most laptops nowadays due to HD wide screens that come as standard on most laptops now!

And yet you keep telling me to set everything to 100% zoom and experiment with overall size! What a joke!  You do not think I have done that already???? I have had to redesign one already because customers were constantly complaining... An this is the best you can advise me to do!

 

Have you even tried looking at websites built by moonfruit on various laptops and pc devices??? THEY LOOK TERRIBLE SET AT 100% ZOOM!!!

 

So what reply would you like to suggest now?

 

 

 

 

 

 

August 27, 2012 13:22
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sophierj
August 28, 2012 00:04
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niaksan

I have the same problem. My site looks great in edit mode but as soon as I try to watch it live, the right hand side of my site is truncated. This is ridiculous. Ironically, one of the "Sites of the Month" in MF September edition suffers from the same problem, I wonder how those sites are picked!! I definitely won't renew my subscription, what a joke. 

 

September 23, 2012 19:26
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lotusleaf

@ niaksan - if the right hand side is missing in View but OK in Edit, that's usually because the zoom is set at something other than 100% and re-setting the zoom normally solves the problem.

September 23, 2012 20:58
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groundupglobal

I'm having the same problem (obviously) and although this doesn't help me in particular, I did want to point out that

www.one.org

has framing that one could achieve on a moonfruit website but looks clean and gorgeous. The key is uniformity of color!

For the rest of us, here's hoping the HTML5 release solves this issue...

October 02, 2012 15:06
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swpersonaltraining

This is moonfruits biggest downfall to the whole point of the business- producing professional looking websites! It NEEDS to be addressed!

October 23, 2012 21:59
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mplmpl

If you look back at many posts... I have tried to get a solution but to no avail. I keep trying to explain that you CANNOT have a message on your website asking the the viewing public to "Please set their zoom to 100% for best optimum viewing" How amateur would that look.

 

And as stated before... Most laptops are so advanced now in offering HD  or wide screens as standard now. It makes my website look an absolute joke! So please stop telling me to set zoom to 100%

 

I really like moonfruit but I still have NO answers on how you will resolve this! Hence my searching for another similar website builder. Anyone have suggestions?

October 23, 2012 22:19
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lotusleaf

I really like moonfruit but I still have NO answers on how you will resolve this!

If I read moonfruit's answers correctly, it's not a problem which is resolvable due to the technology they use, which is what makes their web sites easy to build and feature-rich.  Other website programs use different technology so are able to offer this feature although in my opinion what you gain on one aspect, you lose on another.

Hence my searching for another similar website builder. Anyone have suggestions?

As far as I know, there isn't another website builder similar to moonfruit and which doesn't have the same "problem".  I put "problem" in inverted commas because not everybody finds it a problem - until this thread started, it never occurred to me that it could be a problem as nobody has ever complained to me about it and as a reseller, I have quite a number of sites with moonfruit.  My suggestion to anyone who does find this a problem would be to learn HTML or to subcontract to an HTML designer as that way, you have complete flexibility which, as far as I know, you don't get with any commercial program.

October 24, 2012 13:22
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windblew

but will it resize when html comes out

November 04, 2012 07:44
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westcoastmountainbiking

Hopefully the HTML5 version being released over the next two months will change this as it won't rely on the designated sizes of flash elements....................

November 18, 2012 23:03
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ashleyctwood

I believe this is possible to do, Users should be given the option in the editor to stretch out their website to the browser window size. I personally would not use it because i don't like stretched out content

November 22, 2012 23:19
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stainburnjoinery

WHen I created a facebook shop using my MF website they gave the choice of selecting 'fluid' or 'fixed'. How can content powered by MF be fluid when viewed through facebook but fixed (on some laptops) when viewed direclty?

Hoping for a solution soon

November 26, 2012 20:46
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lacramita

I find it very annoying that I cant create my site on my small laptop because when i scroll down I cant see the part with start creating the site. I can only do it on my big laptop

November 29, 2012 15:19
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sophierj

I only have the one laptop (not sure if it is big or small) but everything seems to work fine for me.

November 29, 2012 15:23
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lukaszendesk

Looks nice on mine

January 24, 2013 12:19
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theoverwolf

For the love of god, get this sorted! The moonfruit site is beautifully presented... and yet you won't afford your customers the ability to achieve that same professional look you present yourself with.

 

FFS! Not being able to have a full width banner just plain sucks, and it reminds me of those crappy free geocities sites from the late 90s.

February 06, 2013 01:07
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mplmpl

I log back in now and again to review if there are any solutions from march 2012 when I first posted. All I see is no solution so when its comes to renewing then I would have to really see what my options are. Would I rather join WIX.com and have a website which automatically fits into whatever size screen I use it on! 

 

Or..    Would I rather have moonfruit? 


I would think that having my websites not look unprofessional would benefit me more. We shall see...


PLEASE ADMIN DO NOT TELL ME TO SET MY ZOOM TO 100% you obviously have not viewed your own featured websites or many different screen sizes!

February 08, 2013 01:09
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gizmo2501

This is an appalling decision on Moonfruit's part. The sites do not look the same across all devices, as advertised. Feel like such an idiot for forking out £72 for my site, wasting time building it, and then finding it does not display properly on any screen resolution apart from the one I use. Moonfruit, don't advertise that sites look the same across all devices, when, in fact, they don't.

March 06, 2013 12:13
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eamvfx

WE NEED A FIX AND WE NEED IT NOW! I can not believe after setting my website, all the work has gone to trash because of this. It is just ridiculous....

April 10, 2013 17:30
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theoverwolf

It's useless, don't waste your time guys. I know the work and time you put in you can't get back, but it's time to cut your losses and move on. Wix and Weebly are working great for me!

April 10, 2013 19:04
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knitplaylearn

This is a breach of the Trade Descriptions Act...  FIX IT !

Those in charge aren't bothered... because they've sold the company to YELL... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/windfall-for-founder-as-yell-buys-moonfruit-7758159.html

May 13, 2013 17:35
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lotusleaf

This is a breach of the Trade Descriptions Act...  

Really?  I'm curious to know in what way... do tell!

FIX IT !

If you read back up the thread, you'll see it's not a problem that's fixable, it's the way the software works.

Those in charge aren't bothered...

Just because it's not technically possible to change the software which underpins the entire system doesn't mean that they don't care - it simply means that it's not technically possible.

May 13, 2013 19:00
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knitplaylearn

lotusleaf... software works the way it is programmed to work... we can send men to the moon using software because we want to... 

AND to say that it's not technically possible has very serious implications... they are selling us the idea that we can "Publish once, be everywhere" knowing full well that we cannot...

See attached file.

May 13, 2013 23:13
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knitplaylearn

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/advice/index.cfm

"Your consumer rights – products must be: 

  • of satisfactory quality - last for the time you would expect and be free of any defects

  • fit for purpose – fit for the use described and any specific use you made clear to the trader
  • as described – match the description on packaging or what the trader told you"
May 13, 2013 23:21
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lotusleaf

But making the site fit the width of the monitor is nothing to do with "Publish once, be everywhere".  What that clip says is absolutely true - moonfruit HTML5 sites are published to PCs/Macs, tablets, iPhones/iPads, etc and can also be published to Facebook.

I'm sorry you're so unhappy with moonfruit, knitplaylearn.  It's not perfect - what is? - but as a DIY package which doesn't pretend to be bespoke, it's a very good all-rounder.  If you could accept its limitations and concentrate on what it CAN do rather than what it can't do, you could build a super site with it.  I can tell from my Google stats that the vast majority of my own and my clients' visitors view on 1024 width screens or less.  If you build you site to that width, it will fill the screen.  There will be some people who have larger screens and will see a border - is that really a hanging offence, particularly when everyone has the chance to trial moonfruit and see how it works before signing up?

As I see it, moonfruit users have two choices.  We can shout and scream at moonfruit because it doesn't do what we want it to do, or we can accept that it's a DIY package which won't suit us all of the time, and get on with building the best site we can.  Moonfruit give us a lot of tools to build great sites, and what tools they don't give us, can often be embedded using HTML snippets.  V6/HTML5 doesn't yet have all the tools that V5 has got because it's still a Beta version, but I'm very happy with the V6 sites I've built and so are my clients.  They're all on page 1 of Google for their key search terms - some have multiple entries on page 1 and others are at the top. And I've achieved that without having to know any coding and at a reasonable cost.  I'm more than happy to give credit to moonfruit for enabling me to do this.

knitplaylearn, if you run into problems building your site, moonfruit are here to help, and members help each other out too.   I know from other threads you've posted in that you think moonfruit aren't helpful, but that's because you're expecting to request/demand that they change various aspects of a DIY package to suit you, whereas they have to suit the majority and within the constraints of their own system.  I know you want them to change it, but wanting it isn't going to make it happen - it's a waste of energy that surely could be better spent on building your site, or checking out other people's sites to see what fantastic results some members have achieved with moonfruit?  Good luck whatever you decide to do.

May 14, 2013 00:12
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knitplaylearn

And who are you then... ???

You and your clients don't mind visitors just being returned to the Home page without even a brief note that the page they were looking for wasn't found...??? This, clearly, will result in lost of visitors and hence custom...

But hey... this really is a waste of energy...

May 14, 2013 00:43
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lotusleaf

Hi knitplaylearn, I'm a reseller.  I've never had the problem that you're referring to, and as I've just said on your thread about Error 404, very few people have complained about it in all the time I've been here. 

May 14, 2013 00:56
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lotusleaf

... to come back to the monitor issue, some moonfruit users have managed to achieve the effect of the site filling the screen by putting an image into the wallpaper and running it through the background.  Have a look at www.pinnellproductions.co.uk which is the current site of the month, and also http://bdzine2013.moonfruit.com for just a couple of examples.  Both of those wallpapers have been created by the users.  Some of moonfruit's templates (at least in V5, not sure about V6) have headers which run all the way across the screen to give a "full screen" appearance, for example http://cookietemplate.moonfruit.com.   I've had a look at your site, knitplaylearn, and you could go some way towards achieving a "full screen" appearance just by changing the wallpaper from grey to white.  I don't know how expert you are yet at using moonfruit, so just ask if you don't know how to do this, or apologies if that's teaching grandmother to suck eggs.

May 14, 2013 01:33
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knitplaylearn

I have NOT had the problem because I only have a small screen PC... so my only knowledge is from what is written here... Oh, was it you said use 1024 screen resolution ??? Well that is tooooooo big for my screen, and very likely for other 'poorer' people too... and I cannot abide using the horizontal scroll bar... I am using 960 (I think)... 

I do believe that you lot are all considering things from your own point of view... I try to consider all aspects of the lives of my visitors... 

Errrrr... what 'wall paper' ? The grey rectangle behind the menu ????? What's a 'full screen' ?????

My experience of websites has come from elsewhere... and the things that I seem to care about are not considered important to MF... but I'm stuck here for 2 months because I'd have to wait that long to transfer my domain names..... Grrrrrh... I only came to MF because I wanted a UK company... should have stayed with US......

 

May 14, 2013 01:58
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lotusleaf

In moonfruit, the "wallpaper" is the area outside the boundary of your site.  The "background" fills the site.  If you have them both the same colour, it gives a more unified impression to people who are using larger screens.  No matter how big a monitor is, the wallpaper will fill the screen, hence what I meant when I mentioned a "full screen" appearance.

May 14, 2013 10:03
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Juli
Moonfruit

Hi knitplaylearn,

Your domains have transferred in, not created, which means should you wish to, we can release your domains to our domain provider Gandi. From there you can transfer them to another provider. Additionally you are also within the first 30 days of your subscription - should you wish to we can close your account and refund your payment to you.

Thanks,

Juli

May 14, 2013 10:28
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dragel
@ Lotusleaf: that's all fine and dandy when you've designed it on a smaller screen and somebody on a bigger screen sees it. However if you design it on something like 2560x1440 or even 1920x1080, then all someone on a smaller screen will see is a massively oversized version of your website expanding far past the boundary of their monitor. If I was a customer I would see a site like that, laugh at it, then move on to another website for what I was looking for. Anyway Wix is doing me great for personal websites and ekm powershop is such an amazing e-commerce solution so I've used that for my own business. I just can't believe how long this has gone on for and has never been sorted out. Guys if this hasn't been sorted out by now; it never will. If you don't like it move somewhere better like I did and stop wasting your time trying to get it moonfruit to do something about it.
May 14, 2013 10:43
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lotusleaf

that's all fine and dandy when you've designed it on a smaller screen and somebody on a bigger screen sees it. However if you design it on something like 2560x1440 or even 1920x1080, then all someone on a smaller screen will see is a massively oversized version of your website expanding far past the boundary of their monitor.

You're confusing the physical size of your own monitor screen with the size you choose to design your site at.  Just because you design your site on a 2560 monitor, doesn't mean you have to fix the site at that width.  A typical width these days is 1024.  If the type is at a reasonable size and you're using V6 (which wasn't around when this thread was created), then users with a 980 screen can zoom the site down to 980 and still comfortably read it without needing to scroll.

May 14, 2013 10:51
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lotusleaf

@dragel... I've just been looking at the BBC sports page and guess what - at 100% zoom, it doesn't fill my screen and it has a grey border down the sides!  My screen is 1920 and the sports page looks as if it's been built to 1024.  I'm attaching a screenshot.  If it's good enough for the BBC, not to mention thousands of other professional sites that I come across, then it's good enough for me.  If others think this single issue overrides every one of the many, many other features that moonfruit offers, well fair enough, but it seems a bit odd to me, particularly since the advent of V6/HTML5 which happened after this thread was started.

May 14, 2013 12:59
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dragel

@lotusleaf You're misunderstanding me. I know a x1024 site will look fine on a x1920 screen, however a x1920 site will be too large on a x1024 screen. Why should you have to settle for one or the other? The site should display as intended on all screens.

May 14, 2013 13:15
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lotusleaf

The site should display as intended on all screens

We'll have to agree (or not!) to differ on this one because I don't see any reason why it "should" - I'm quite happy with the fact that it doesn't, but if you're not and if that's your overriding criterion in your choice of website builder, outweighing all the other features that moonfruit offers in favour of an alternative program that offers that one feature but fewer other features than moonfruit offers, then as you've said, you must do what suits you.  As time goes on (nearly two years since this thread was started), larger screens are becoming more and more irrelevant anyway.  The trend is to go smaller.  Tablet sales have overtaken sales of desktops, and even tablets are going smaller.  The new moonfruit V6 is ideal for tablets.  I know from my stats that only a tiny proportion of mine and my clients' visitors have 1920+ screens so I have no qualms about catering for the majority rather than a tiny minority.  But each to their own :)

May 14, 2013 14:11